tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post115515498890071299..comments2024-01-07T09:25:28.592-08:00Comments on Heavy Metal Time Machine: Hair Metal or maybe notMetal Markhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-32947309808143912552007-02-14T04:57:00.000-08:002007-02-14T04:57:00.000-08:00What a great site Didrex shipped c.o.d Ladies leat...What a great site <A HREF="http://www.coddidrexshipping.info/Sheer-bra-fetish-gallery.html" REL="nofollow">Didrex shipped c.o.d</A> <A HREF="http://www.handbags-3.info/sexyleisurebras.html" REL="nofollow">Ladies leather shoulder handbags</A> <A HREF="http://www.indianapolisjobopenings.info/work-from-home-job.html" REL="nofollow">Philadelphia nightclub jobs</A> <A HREF="http://www.vinylpants.info/lingeriephotogallery.html" REL="nofollow">Sweet pea by stacy frati pants</A> <A HREF="http://www.how-to-refinance-1.info/Irvine_financial_portfolio_investment_advisor_20.html" REL="nofollow">Capistrano beach refinance mortgage</A> <A HREF="http://www.genericpercocetpictures.info/Web_page_design_united_kingdom.html" REL="nofollow">Percocet cocktail</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155296801943852692006-08-11T04:46:00.000-07:002006-08-11T04:46:00.000-07:00Ray-People still call in to request this stuff on ...Ray-People still call in to request this stuff on the radio so some people still like, but don't want to admit to it.<BR/><BR/>Strutter-It can be a pretty general label and that's part of the problem<BR/>too.Metal Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155269048291274862006-08-10T21:04:00.000-07:002006-08-10T21:04:00.000-07:00Sirius Satellite has a channel called "Hair Nation...Sirius Satellite has a channel called "Hair Nation" that I listen to most of the time. I'm not sure exactly what their definition of hair metal is, though, because alongside stuff like Poison and Motley Crue they also play Tesla, AC/DC, and Hagar-era Van Halen.Strutter71https://www.blogger.com/profile/11577016214936169814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155266293752614582006-08-10T20:18:00.000-07:002006-08-10T20:18:00.000-07:00We have a really good thread here, friends... Qui...We have a really good thread here, friends... Quite funny considering I just did a Bulletboys entry to my blog today, and they'd be considered a "hair band."<BR/><BR/>Mark is totally right; there was no connotation known as "hair metal" or "hair band." It was just heavy metal, even when MTV tried to pass off Firehouse, Slaughter and Warrant as heavy metal, yeesh. Considering Mark and I both had long hair in the day (his was cooler than mine), we were called "grits" by the preppies, not even "metalheads" or "headbangers." The whole "hair" thing came with the term "hairball" not too long ago.<BR/><BR/>I have a DJ friend in Michigan, Hairball John, who does a weekly radio show, The Sunday Night Hairball, and he plays that element up, but the term "hair band" is just something for the "normal" people to categorize it as such since many of them are closet Poison fans that don't want to admit it anymore, not until you catch them jamming to the 12:00 "Hair Lunch Hour" at their desks...Ray Van Horn, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13614522170335864253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155262006510101492006-08-10T19:06:00.000-07:002006-08-10T19:06:00.000-07:00Arena rock has a better sound to it, but it seems ...Arena rock has a better sound to it, but it seems more general than hair metal.Metal Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155259332723677932006-08-10T18:22:00.000-07:002006-08-10T18:22:00.000-07:00David - I totally agree with you on the arena rock...David - I totally agree with you on the arena rock think. I have that station also. To me Arena Rock is Styx & Journey.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853405736070259136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155251027240959932006-08-10T16:03:00.000-07:002006-08-10T16:03:00.000-07:00Thanks Mark! If anyone stops by be sure to check ...Thanks Mark! If anyone stops by be sure to check out the pics I have over there of 80's "hair bands" :)<BR/><BR/>http://laylashairbandfaves.blogspot.com/Bar L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11100008292699584336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155248966328643422006-08-10T15:29:00.000-07:002006-08-10T15:29:00.000-07:00OK, here's something I held off on before, but I'l...OK, here's something I held off on before, but I'll mention it now (and probably cross-post this comment on the Layla's classic rock blog, which raised a similar question about metal vs. hard rock).<BR/><BR/>A term that my local cable provider uses for the 24-hour music channel for this music is "arena rock." First, here's why I don't like the phrase:<BR/><BR/>1. Many bands play in arenas and are considered rock, even crap like Nickelback, yet aren't what I would put in this category.<BR/><BR/>2. Many great bands in this category never got popular enough to play in arenas.<BR/><BR/>3. In the 1980s, I remember "arena rock" being used as a near synonym for "corporate rock" to describe bands like Journey. And Journey is by no means in the category we're trying to label.<BR/><BR/>But part of me really likes using "arena rock" for these bands;<BR/><BR/>1. Unlike "hair metal," it doesn't include the term "metal," which some "arena rock" bands cross over into but whcih most do not.<BR/><BR/>2. Nobody better characterizes or takes advantage of the arena environment than these bands. Fun music, slutty girls flashing the band (and, often, the crowd), anthems with cheesy choruses ... these things are what the arena show is all about. KISS kicked it off, and bands like Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, Ratt, Poison, and the Crue made the arenas shake.<BR/><BR/>So I leave this where most of us have left "hair metal:" undecided. But I think I like it better than "hair metal."<BR/><BR/>-- davidDavid Amulethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758977878243268087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155246512046861932006-08-10T14:48:00.000-07:002006-08-10T14:48:00.000-07:00I've never used the term Hair metal and I wouldn't...I've never used the term Hair metal and I wouldn't know what constitutes being a hair metal band.(other than the obvious).Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14486637576778688399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155233605040217972006-08-10T11:13:00.000-07:002006-08-10T11:13:00.000-07:00David-I try to compare a band to other specific ba...David-I try to compare a band to other specific band's rather than hair metal, but sometimes I use the term.<BR/><BR/>Mike-I have never used the term 80's rock, but it sounds better than hair metal.<BR/><BR/>Steve-I think you are right that no one wants to admit to liking these bands. Yet a lot of people went to see Motley Crue on their last tour, someone goes to see Poison every summer and someone in New York paid a good bit to see <BR/>G-n-R when they played those few shows in the spring. So fans of the music are out there.<BR/><BR/>Theo-I think cock rock might be even worse.Metal Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155230459509854062006-08-10T10:20:00.000-07:002006-08-10T10:20:00.000-07:00'Hair metal' may have a derogatory connotation now...'Hair metal' may have a derogatory connotation now, but I wonder if one day it will become a badge of pride. <BR/><BR/>Is it any better or worse than 'cock rock,' which I think describes the same music?TT Quickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15778052517595497918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155229970129584712006-08-10T10:12:00.000-07:002006-08-10T10:12:00.000-07:00I use the term "Hard Rock" or "80s Rock". I think ...I use the term "Hard Rock" or "80s Rock". I think the Hair Metal name makes fun of the whole scene. <BR/><BR/>Sometime around 1998/1999 when Portrait started signing all the old bands and those bands started reforming, the term started to get used in the mainstream. I remember reading it in Rolling Stone and hearing it here on local radio. All the Poison shows here in New England have been billed as "Hair Balls" since the reunion.<BR/><BR/>It's sad actually because most people who enjoyed this music back in the day are too afraid to admit it today. These are the same people that dismiss the '80s Hard Rock/Metal scene but secretly still like the music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155222064769257712006-08-10T08:01:00.000-07:002006-08-10T08:01:00.000-07:00I also agree with you Mark. I just refer to it as...I also agree with you Mark. I just refer to it as 80's Rock and people understand what I mean. I agree that there are too many bands that were around in the 80's that are under that "hair band" label when they shouldn't be.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00853405736070259136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155221260061568252006-08-10T07:47:00.000-07:002006-08-10T07:47:00.000-07:00I'm with you -- "hair metal" is a horrible term, e...I'm with you -- "hair metal" is a horrible term, especially because some of the bands usually thrown in there (I'm thinking of Tesla, among others) weren't doing the hair spray and spandex thing.<BR/><BR/>I like to call it all hard rock, or metal. Subcategories confuse as much as they enlighten.<BR/><BR/>--davidDavid Amulethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03758977878243268087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155219716236621732006-08-10T07:21:00.000-07:002006-08-10T07:21:00.000-07:00Jose-Then again a lot of sub-genre terms didn't st...Jose-Then again a lot of sub-genre terms didn't start up until say the early 90's so Venom were not referred to as black metal until well after their prime. Even Bathory who really took what Venom did and layed much of the foundation of black metal were well into their prime before they got that label.Metal Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155219146555767622006-08-10T07:12:00.000-07:002006-08-10T07:12:00.000-07:00mark - yeah, i guess that is true, for the origins...mark - yeah, i guess that is true, for the origins of the genres. like venom, for example - paradoxically, they're not really black metal at all musically, and the term and lots of inspiration originated from them. :)José Carlos Santoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15812943852379509545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155209464799104352006-08-10T04:31:00.000-07:002006-08-10T04:31:00.000-07:00Jose-They aren't only about those topics, but I th...Jose-They aren't only about those topics, but I think a lot of the bands were when the labels were first used and a number of bands still use those topics.<BR/><BR/>Onmywatch-I don't think that I heard the term mullet until the 90's.Metal Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400759786407810475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155208497261834562006-08-10T04:14:00.000-07:002006-08-10T04:14:00.000-07:00I used to call it Glam too, but you're right about...I used to call it Glam too, but you're right about using Hair as a widely accepted term, although it might not be accurate. (also, I don't remember the hairstyle being known as the mullet either back then, but I could be wrong.)<BR/><BR/>I lost track of categories after the term 'alternative' was used.On My Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03596696073997934432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13852175.post-1155199060382308592006-08-10T01:37:00.000-07:002006-08-10T01:37:00.000-07:00i'd just like to nitpick a bit and say that the do...i'd just like to nitpick a bit and say that the doom, black and death categorizations are not really (or not only, at most) about the lyrics. :)José Carlos Santoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15812943852379509545noreply@blogger.com